In this blog I’ve sought to
carve up some sacred cows, including happiness and sex, theism
and new atheism, liberalism and conservatism. In their
place I recommend a pretty dark worldview, although not a wholly dark one.
This worldview is informed by Nietzschean existentialism and by cosmicism as well as philosophical naturalism. The gist of existentialism
is that we choose how we confront harsh truths about ourselves and our place in
the universe, and that the mainstream choice is to retreat to self-serving
delusions. “Cosmicism” is H.P. Lovecraft’s name for the science-inspired
suspicion that our values, hopes, and dreams are all pathetic in the grand
scheme, that our knowledge of the ultimate truth of how the universe works
would deprive us of our sanity.
Probably the most common
objection to my sort of hostility to Western culture takes the form of a stream
of personal attacks: existential cosmicists are romantic idealists, often stuck
in a juvenile stage of personal development, substituting a suitably dark
fantasy for the tauntingly pleasant reality; moreover, the criticism goes,
these idealists merely devise an elaborate philosophical rationalization for
their personal failures in life, which is to say that existential cosmicists
tend to be either losers (poor, unattractive sufferers) or else spoiled
whiners, complaining about their anomie instead of seizing their opportunities,
participating in society, and not over-thinking everything.
There are several criticisms
here of existential cosmicism (EC), which can be conflated, so I’ll tease them
apart and explain them more fully before responding to them.
Opposing Existential Cosmicism
Romanticism: Romanticism was the aesthetic movement that began as a
recoiling from such cultural impacts of the Scientific Revolution as
utilitarianism, pragmatism, and secular humanism.
Instead of thinking of nature purely as quantifiable bits of matter that can be
exploited, romantics deified the cosmos, portraying natural forces as worthy of
awe, horror, and thus respect. Indeed, the pragmatist who deifies
humans--especially for our scientific and engineering capabilities--borrows a
theistic conceit which modern science itself has embarrassed, namely the notion
that we’re similar to the First Cause, to the Creator of the universe. For the pragmatist whose ultimate value is
usefulness, nature is a machine that can be reengineered to suit our purposes,
and the more we control natural forces, the more godlike we become. Ironically,
the romantic takes more seriously the upshot of modern science, holding up as
more sacred the sea of natural forces than the hapless creatures who come and
go as waves in that sea.
The criticism of my view,
though, would be that EC is an hysterical overreaction to the success of
technoscience, a sort of misplaced pity for the ecosystem we might destroy in
our effort to transform it, and a nostalgic preference for mystery. The
romantic denigrates our rational powers to preserve a terror of nature that's supposed to follow from
our presumed inability to fully explain the universe. We fear most what we
don’t understand, and if we can’t understand everything, such as consciousness
or why there’s something rather than nothing, we must always be humble. This
humility has social and political consequences; in particular, the romantic
tends to oppose the arrogance of unbridled capitalism. And so the criticism is
ultimately a personal attack: romanticism is a rationalization of failure,
whereas scientistic culture celebrates our success, or at least our bold plan
of carrying on as gods now that we’ve deposed the false god, thanks to modern
science. Thus, if EC is romantic, so much the worse for EC.
Now, cosmicism is
romantic in the historical sense I’ve outlined. In this blog, I’ve criticized
the arrogance of scientistic culture, speaking of the curse of reason, the delusions of hyper-rationalism, and so
on. But “romanticism” isn’t a pejorative term, which is to say that applying
the label doesn’t amount to a criticism. Just because cosmicism can be traced
to a reaction to the Scientific Revolution doesn’t mean cosmicism is wrong. On
the contrary, as I’ve suggested, the cosmicist may be closer to modern science
than is the scientistic humanist. As suggested, the criticism that’s implicit
in any accusation that cosmicism is romantic lies on other, personal grounds to
which I now turn.
Childish Naivety: I think the root of the foregoing objection to EC is a
disagreement about what to make of the power of technoscience. Secular
humanists are immensely proud of that power and they have contempt for
traditional superstitions and for the prospect of any other retrograde brake on
technoscientific progress. Their scorn for religion isn’t due so much to an
intellectual difference of opinion on technical questions of theology and
cosmology, but on awe felt for human secular achievements and on a revolutionary’s
adventurous impulse to follow the technoscientific enterprise to its ultimate
end, which may be our apotheosis or our self-destruction. Modern Western
rationalists were revolutionary in wresting power from the Catholic Church,
replacing that unsustainable medieval oligarchy with a stealth variety that’s more compatible with modern knowledge.
Secular humanists want to be on the winning team, and they regard the power of
technoscience as a sure sign that a science-centered ideology is best. By contrast,
for example, religious fundamentalism isn’t just dangerous to the modern social
order, but wildly impractical and thus contrary to the all-consuming desire for
technoscientific progress.
Likewise, one of the
existential cosmicist’s sins is supposed to be naivety: EC would undermine
people’s confidence in their secular pursuits and thus slow social progress,
hampering the humanist’s effort to adapt us to the demands of ever-“advancing”
science and technology. For the secular humanist, progress requires trust that
the gains of that advance will outweigh the costs, that godlike knowledge and
power in the hands of clever mammals will be worth the sacrifices of modern
oligarchy, wild (“free”) economic competition, and the lowering of aesthetic
standards due to democracy and the rise of the corporate monoculture (or
anticulture). If we’ll need to sacrifice in modern societies, says the secular
humanist, at least we can be placated with the addictive joys of consuming
material goods and of having sex with abandon, cheering on our liberal or
conservative politicians as partisan team-players who submerge our
individuality in the hive mind. In my blog I’ve cast aspersions on some of the
ideals that motivate this secular faith, and so the objection is that I’m incredibly
naïve, as though anything human-made could alter our modern course. Why waste
time on impractical and indeed counterproductive musings, instead of struggling
more single-mindedly to succeed like most other people, to reap the material
rewards?
Cowardly Escapism: The
critic’s answer is that EC is a cowardly attempt to escape from adult
responsibilities. Modern civilization is supposedly more mature than more
ignorant, ancient ones, and thus those who follow the received wisdom of
modernity demonstrate their greater maturity. Outsiders, drop-outs, and other omega
losers who gainsay secular culture, may lack the self-confidence needed to
succeed in the adult businesses of earning a living and raising a family, let
alone of making our collective way in the natural universe.
Bitter Rationalization: The diagnosis may be, then, that EC is a rationalization
for character defects and for personal failures. The existential cosmicist may
seek to drag secular society down to his level, since misery loves company.
Instead of blaming his personal weaknesses, the antisocial outsider may seek a
scapegoat or attempt to save face by waging a holy war of iconoclasm. Instead
of admitting to being a mere pathetic loser who bitterly and jealously seeks to
rob people of their peace of mind, the existential cosmicist puffs himself up,
deeming himself a crusader on a mission to enlighten everyone, to show them
that the secular activities he fails at (material success, raising a family,
being a productive member of society by accepting certain conventions) are
degrading compared to allegedly nobler ones.
The opponent’s hypothesis,
then, has two parts. First, the expectation is that the existential cosmicist
suffers from crippling personal weaknesses, such as physical ugliness, mental
disability, or business, social, or sexual incapacities. Second, the opponent
would explain this by saying that EC is a rationalization that effectively
conceals those weaknesses or transforms them into twisted successes, and in
this way the social outcast sustains a modicum of pride despite the dismal
state of his affairs.
These sorts of personal
attacks, launched reflexively by defenders of modern secular societies against
not just existential cosmicists but other radical critics, merely put into
words the so-called realist’s disgust with anything thought to be idle and
impractical. I assume these charges would spring to the minds of most people
were they to read my blog (although those who actually locate and choose to
read this blog might tend to agree with it, since those who spend time reading
philosophical articles on the internet likely already share an outsider’s
mindset). The average secular humanist would be repulsed by a presumed stink of
failure that wafts from this blog or from any diatribe against popular
culture.
After all, you’d never hear
a Casanova speaking ill of sexuality; nor a highly successful family man, who
aims to be happy in the secular sense, rejecting the ideals of consumer society
as delusions; nor Barack Obama or George W. Bush publicly abandoning their
respective political principles. No, those who engage in radical criticism are
naturally expected to be outsiders as opposed to the winners whose welfare
depends on their constructive engagement with the very society in question. The
outcast’s hostility to modern ideals is foolish, on the politically correct view, since were the poisonous attitude of EC
more common, it would spoil the only life we have. Worst of all, EC is
counterproductive, running up against the ideology of humanistic progress.
Thus, the existential cosmicist is a laughable Don Quixote figure, engaging in
a naïve, futile project instead of relishing the freedom and other boons made
possible by modernity.
Correlation and Causation
I think these personal
attacks need to be critiqued, meaning that I agree with them up to a point, but
that we should appreciate where they go wrong from their plausible assumptions.
Again, it stands to reason that radical critics are outsiders who fail, more or
less, in the terms set by the society they oppose. Nietzsche, the early
existentialist, and Lovecraft, the cosmicist, certainly suffered from
breakdowns or financial failures. It stands to reason that those who excel in
certain enveavours will pursue them for as long as they retain their skills.
But this is to speak only of correlations between success and a positive
outlook on the grounds for that success, and between weakness and failure, on
the one hand, and skepticism about the tasks you do poorly in, on the other.
Those who are strong in certain areas will excel in them and be proud of their
accomplishments, since they’ll look favourably on the world that rewards their
gifts or their choice to practice and so eventually to triumph. Meanwhile,
those who are cursed with weaknesses, be they physical, mental, or social, and who shoulder
the full blame for their predicament likely won’t be long for this world;
they’ll succumb to shame from their self-imposed stigma and do themselves in.
The losers who persist, therefore, must have some coping mechanism that keeps
them alive and kicking, such as an EC ideology that finds more than enough
blame to go around, as it were--indeed a whole cosmos to loathe.
But correlation isn’t causation.
Where the opponent of EC errs, then, is in assuming that the reason for the
correlation is that the existential cosmicist (or Gnostic, religious
fundamentalist, ascetic, socialist, or any other radical critic of modern
Western society) merely rationalizes those personal weaknesses, that the
weaknesses not only cause the EC ideology, but that they are EC’s only
sources, that EC is nothing but a face-saving mechanism. There are, of
course, other possibilities. For one thing, cause and effect here may be
reversed: perhaps the ideology of EC comes first to some people at a young age,
and that unrelenting skepticism then causes them to fail at business, social
networking, and intimate relationships; that is, hostility to certain social
norms should naturally take someone out of the running, causing her either
consciously or otherwise to withdraw from conventional walks of life. Then
again, even if the personal weaknesses come first, they may be only partial causes of EC, which is to say
that those weaknesses may also afford the outsider a detached perspective from
which society’s ills can more clearly be seen, so that EC has a philosophical
as well as a psychological basis.
Indeed, the opponent of EC
has a curious double standard. She’d credit the success of insiders--in part at
least--to their personal strengths (their attractiveness, ambition, talents,
family connections, and so on), maintaining that those strengths collectively
make possible the gloriously progressive modern civilization. This opponent would
also blame the failures of outcasts on their personal weaknesses, as I’ve
explained, but she’d be stingier with her assessment of the fruit of those
“weaknesses,” as it were; that is, the so-called strengths of physical
attractiveness, ambition, and so on bring about secular happiness, an enviable
sex life, and the whole Age of Reason, but the opposite qualities, such as
ugliness, mental “dysfunction”, cynicism, and antisocial tendencies are
assumed to cause only the poverty and alienation of these few outcasts. No, if
we’re speaking here of causality, of natural processes whereby certain types of
people differentially alter their environments, the radically hostile mindset
seems to produce or sustain not just a handful of people’s suffering, but a mental
representation of an ideal way in which the world might be, based on an
unflinching recognition of reality and an aesthetically sensitive reaction to
that reality. Granted, the labours of healthy, productive people add up to the
construction of an actual society, but insightful outsiders may have the
vantage point to coldly calculate the difference between that society and the
one that should replace it.
EC may indeed serve as an
elaborate mechanism for coping with bitter disappointments, at least for some
outsiders and losers. But failure in life seems to have a silver lining, which
is that bitterness, ugliness, introversion, and poverty may force the loser to
adopt a detached, alienated position, to look upon society from an external
vantage point and thus to be able to objectively catalogue our absurdities and
tragedies. Just as an anthropologist gains unique insight when studying a
foreign culture, insight unavailable to members of the tribe who can’t afford
to be skeptical of their cultural conventions, the loser should have a unique
perspective on the culture she needn’t accept for her own good. The very
personal weaknesses that disgust the successful, well-loved, upstanding member
of a modern society may be the primary means of attaining the ultimate
philosophical insight.
Indeed, the greatest of
these outsiders have usually been lauded and even worshipped for precisely that
reason. Martin Luther King, Jr. was an outsider (due to his skin colour) when
he said he dreamed of the day when freedom would ring for everyone regardless
of their race, gender, or physical appearance. Gandhi was physically weak and frugal when he led the
Indian nationalist movement against British colonialism in India. Likewise, the
biblical character of Jesus was an impoverished Jew in Roman-occupied Judea
when he contrasted that imperial society with what he called the kingdom of
God. Again, the legendary character of the Buddha was a wandering spiritual
teacher, detached from conventional concerns of family and wealth, when he
contrasted the illusory world of individual things with the interconnected,
ego-annihilating reality. And, lastly, to take a more recent example, the
fictional character of Batman secretly renounces the ideals of corrupt Gotham
City, leading a double life in which he pretends to honour those ideals as a
preeminently upstanding citizen, while using his wealth mainly in a heroic war
against social corruption. Notice that in each of these cases, the hero is born
to relative wealth and luxury, only later to renounce it as a result of a
higher, moral calling. King earned a doctoral degree from Boston University,
Gandhi a law degree in London; Jesus was God in utopian Heaven, who degraded
himself by becoming a man; the Buddha was a prince who gave up his palaces to
live as an ascetic; and although Batman retains his inherited wealth and
secular ambition, he employs them only as covers for his subversive agenda as a
superhero.
My point is obviously not
that the average loser is as heroic or divine as any of these personages.
Again, the most heroic outsiders seem to voluntarily withdraw from the game as
opposed to having their outsider status forced on them by their failures.
Still, the famous prophets, gurus, and heroes fulfill the same ascetic ideal
that lifts up less influential outsiders, and happen to be esteemed by losers
and winners alike. Granted, many materialists only pretend to worship the
colossal loser, Jesus, for example, or else worship him because they assume his
resurrection and eventual triumph negate the resentful message he conveyed
while he suffered as a hermit. But the fact that some of those who fail in the
mainstream, materialistic, biologically-determined sense are nevertheless held
as sacred by great multitudes surely indicates that opponents of inspired,
radical social critiques might just want to suppress disheartening truths about
the society they’ve embraced. The insiders may fear that they live in corrupt
Gotham after all, that they’ve pledged themselves to delusions and that the
outsider tends to understand the world at a deeper level. The personal
attacks function, then, as distractions, having no logical force as they stand
but only the practical goal of shaming the loser to put an end to the rants.
Teleological Maturity
There’s another questionable
aspect of these attacks, besides their confusion of correlation with causation,
which is the notion that idealists are less mature than pragmatists who tend to
achieve more in materialistic terms because they (the pragmatists) dedicate
themselves to that more “realistic” task. At root here is the naturalistic
fallacy, the inference that because certain goals are normal, therefore they’re
normative, that because we’re genetically predisposed to seeking a mate and
earning enough money to raise a family, therefore we’re supposed to achieve
those ends so that those who fail are malformed or stuck in some earlier stage
of development. Now, all of this requires theism, a set of ideas which is
laughably preposterous. Theism, you’ll recall, is the vainglorious delusion
that human nature is fundamental to the universe, that there would be no cosmos
without an almighty person who thinks and acts like us, who allegedly created
everything around us. Were there such a creator god, his creation would have a
function, just as we give our creations functions, which is to say jobs they
ought to perform. But when Darwin showed that the intelligent design of
organisms is illusory, he also discredited the normative interpretation of
biological phenomena. Thus it became fallacious to infer a value from a
biological, naturally selected fact.
And yet the upstanding
citizen pities the ascetic and alienated outsider as immature, as failing not
just to satisfy social expectations but to grow into a complete human being,
leading a so-called rich, full life. In turn, the ascetic outsider, the
omega person who is last in all mainstream estimations, is disgusted with the
winner’s delusions of grandeur. Instead of trotting out an archaic teleological
presupposition according to which we have a natural purpose even though our
creators, namely natural forces, are thoroughly undead, the opponent of
EC should appreciate that people are differently
equipped. Some are beautiful, ambitious, and gullible, and thus well-disposed
to succeed in the matrix sustained by politically correct delusions that
prevent mass outbreaks of debilitating angst. Others are unattractive, socially
awkward, inept at business, but philosophically curious. These others will
likely not acquire much wealth nor attract many friends or mates, and if they
nevertheless long to be happy, they’re just the sort who will foolishly kill
themselves. Again, the losers who remain will develop in a different direction:
rather than being immature in some cryptotheistic sense, they’ll devalue
mainstream expectations, preferring a more or less ascetic life of
contemplating the comical results of our instinct to personalize the thoroughly
impersonal natural order. If an outsider doesn’t belong to the consumer
culture, doesn’t share the hedonistic desire for a rich, full life, the
opponent of EC merely begs the question when she calls the existential
cosmicist a loser or a failure. To be sure, relative to mainstream conventions,
an ascetic with little income or social life fails miserably, but whether those
conventions are best is just the question at issue.
Finally, I want to consider
the question of bitterness. Does the existential cosmicist opt out of a normal
life due to bitterness, that is, to a begrudging admission that this person is
ill-equipped to succeed in that respect, which causes her to lash out blindly at
the word like a wounded animal? Blaming the world primarily for your personal
disappointment is highly egoistic, as though you were central to the universe
and nature owes you a favour. Still, bitterness is close to what I’d call an
ethically proper response to suffering, namely disgust for what’s distasteful.
The difference is that the bitter person takes her suffering personally,
whereas someone whose ego has been so overwhelmed by failure that she laughs at
her own pathetic defense mechanisms holds the world in contempt with greater
detachment. What revolts the existential cosmicist isn’t that she lacks what
many others possess or that the world won’t hear her prayers for a greater
fortune. No, she understands that her failures are brought about largely by her
inherited inabilities and peculiar predilections (what closet teleologists call
“weaknesses” and “malfunctions”), and by her eventual decision to renounce the
mainstream way of life. Nevertheless, her aesthetic sense is assaulted by the
hideous imbalance between nature’s inhumaneness and our human nature. That we sentient,
intelligent beings should have been produced not by a loving god but by an
entropically decaying yet mindlessly creative, buzzing chaos of quantum fluctuations
isn’t beautiful at all, but appalling for its tragic and absurd implications.
Interesting article! Deep insights! I personally agree with most of it. This is close to what I think.
ReplyDeleteDoes an existential cosmicist reject cosmic human delusions(like religious and humanist delusions) only or all delusions?
O.R.
Thanks for reading, O.R. Life would probably be impossible with no delusions. For example, as I just pointed out in my short entry on prayer, some delusions are instinctive: even atheists call out to no one as though they were praying, when they're especially scared or angry. My focus, though, is on the ugliest, most degrading delusions and these are often found on both sides of philosophical issues, such as liberalism and conservatism, secular humanism and theism. (See my posts on aesthetic morality.)
ReplyDeleteDo you think that people like Budha also had delusions?
ReplyDeleteWell, I'm not a Buddhist, but a Buddhist would say that an enlightened person is the opposite of a deluded one, and that a Buddha is defined as someone who's enlightened. But has there ever been someone who was perfectly enlightened? I don't think so, since everyone has to think with the human brain which, because of how it evolved, makes us prone to illusions, fallacies and other cognitive deficits. Cognitive scientists have come up with a long list of the ways we're inherently irrational. Enlightened people fight against those biases, but I assume that flawless enlightenment would require a transhuman body.
DeleteIs there a point you'd like to make, though, about delusions?
First, I would like to say that I agree with your reply without reservation.
DeleteI am afraid that I have not been as clear as I should have been in my questions. When I used the word "deluded" I meant self-deluded, or self deceived. So I am talking about self-deception which is close to what Sartre meant by "bad faith" perhaps? I am excluding physiological things like visual blind spot which the brain automatically fills etc.
I think that perhaps self-deception is the basic thing to which
existentialists and cosmicists object to in how the human society works. Certainly, this is my objection. I do not know if you have thought much about self-deception being the root of evil. I have been thinking about it but I need to clear my thoughts. What do you think about it? O.R.
I don't know if self-deception is the root of evil. The primary kind of delusion for Buddhists is individualism, the view that there are independent things generally, including the self. Certainly, ancient Greek philosophers regarded self-knowledge as the root of virtue, and eastern mystics say our ultimate task is to be aware of our oneness with God. Bad faith is a kind of brainwashing from social conventions. Still, whether these kinds of self-deception are the primary delusions, I'm not sure. Before someone feels comfortable doing whatever a materialistic society tells her, for example, I think she's got to be pragmatic and driven by the instinct to succeed in mainstream terms. Those instincts are genetic biases.
DeleteSo it's not just perceptual illusions that are innate; there's also a long list of innate fallacies and biases. For example, there's the confirmation bias, where we favour evidence that supports our beliefs and ignore disconfirming evidence. This causes many people to conclude that there are miraculous synchronicities, which are really just coincidences. We're looking to buy a certain car, and then we seem to see that car everywhere, because we fasten onto the confirming coincidences and ignore all the cars we see which differ from the one with which we're preoccupied. So here's an innate cognitive bias that can support New Age delusions. See Michael Sherman's book, The Believing Brain, for a long list of such biases and fallacies.
"The primary kind of delusion for Buddhists is individualism, the view that there are independent things generally, including the self."
DeleteThanks for your reply. Can you explain the above more please. Does Buddhism say that there are no independently existing things like tables, stars and moon etc.? And also what is your view about it? O.R.
This is the Buddhist idea of "interdependent arising," which is that all things are interconnected in that they arise only as effects of various causes. Instead of seeing a table, a tree, or a person as an independent object, in the egoistic, Ayn Randian sense, for example, according to which a successful person owes nothing to anyone or to anything, because she's metaphysically free from everything else, the Buddhist sees these things as stages in a process. You can see just the table as it exists at a particular moment, or you can view the table as a stage in the process of how the table came to be, including not just the construction by table-makers, but the origin of the trees used to build it, and thus the evolution of all life and of our solar system, and so on.
DeleteAyn Rand and American libertarians, like Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, or Sara Palin, are individualists in the most egregious, irritatingly obtuse sense. I agree with individualists that we have a special kind of self-control, but the theistic notion of absolute freewill is hard to reconcile with modern science. So I like to think of Buddhist monism here (the idea that everything is one, given their causal interrelations) as a challenge, the way Nietzsche said we should test the mettle of our ideas by pondering extreme alternatives. The problem with the Buddhist idea, I think, is that it might reduce to a semantic point. Whether you call something an object in its own right or a stage of a larger process, one stage still differs from another, and thus you have some kind if distinction between things even in the Buddhist picture.
Ben,
ReplyDeleteThis is the only blog I have ever had any interest in reading. I have been interested in relgion and spirituality since my teens. I have been led astray by a lot of New Age crap and have disdained the common athiest view and the Catholic one in which I was raised. However, negating these beliefs and traditions didn't stop me from seeking truth, if there is such a thing. I had a kind of revelation about 2 years ago when a friend of mine introduced me to Jiddu Krishnamurti. It was a breath of fresh air from all the philisophical word games and hyper-rational arguments that I was sick of hearing. I was made to feel as if existence isn't something to question because science 'knows' what it is. How does one live then? And by whose beliefs and expectations? I admit, Iv'e become bitter towards humanity sometimes. Which is like saying I have become bitter towards myself. Have you ever felt isolated because of your observations? It's hard to find anyone to communicate with that doesn't think you are trying to win the argument. Athiest forums, Buddhist forums and all the subcatagories of those philosophies seem to have members that are more interested in raising there self esteem and perpetuating conflict. I have to convince my close friends that I'm not preaching anything. Iv'e flirted with a lot of eastern concepts and practices but I never gave in to them. If Krishnamurti thought me anything, it's in knowing there are traps everywhere. Even in the most humble and non biased atmosphere it can lead to delusion and subjugation. There is no one path. And that's what causes this feeling of lonliness. Anyway, enough rambling. I really enjoy your blog. Keep up the good work.
Steve
Thanks for the encouragement, Steve. I've got a couple more big articles/rants on religion planned, one getting at the basis of religion in psychedelic experience and the other exploring the most pessimistic religion I can imagine.
DeleteI think the best antidote to bitterness is a sense of humour. I'll probably write another article here just on the aesthetic/spiritual significance of irony and comedy. When the world is opposed to our preferences, we can feel bitter or amused. The comedic response requires detachment, however, and it's easy to preach detachment when the preacher's not personally in the difficult situation.
Internet forums are indeed mostly ego-driven, from what I've seen. Anonymity has a lot to do with it, as does the personality of the males--and they're usually males--who tend not just to browse the internet for philosophical content, but who contribute with their writings. I find new atheist forums like the philosophy section of the Secular Web forum or Jerry Coyne's or Dawkins' comments sections just as insufferable as Christian ones. The relevant cliche here seems to be "Birds of a feather flock together," meaning that when information is allowed to flow freely, as it is on the internet, it fragments, dividing the consumers of that info into groups who circle the wagons, as it were, eventually defending their sacred spaces, repeating their mantras, and bowing to their idols. Rarely have I found interesting and constructive, collaborative philosophical conversations on internet discussion forums. I prefer my philosophy over beer, in any case.
Ben,
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, thank you for the reply.
I'm glad I live in Ireland. We have quite a dark sense of humour here and within my circle of friends anything goes. Larry David cheers me up when I'm in an existential crisis. :-)
I've decided to leave those forums alone. I don't think any group is going to answer my questions honestly. The fundamental reason I am interested in these subject is the desire to change who I am. It used to be about changing the outside, which is important to a certain extent, in practical matters. But the real conflict is internal and I have become aware over the last few years of how much the mind is influenced by culture and how damaging it is to a human when they accept the status quo. I'd like to live my life gracefully and without mischievious motivations. Of course realizing this still leads to suffering but maybe not in the same way. I've found Zen to be quite entertaining. My mind is so one sided most of the time that I forget about all the opposites and contradictions and all of that hillarious irony. Alan Watts cheers me up when I get stuck in the mud.
One of my favourite topics of discussion is DEATH. It scares the crap out of me. I also believe there is comedy there too and something quite profound in contemplating the signifigance of it from as many angles as it is possible for the mind. I haven't read everything on your blog yet so I was hoping I would come cross a rant about death or something along those lines.
Anway,
Ben, thank you for the reply. I'll probably be leaving more comments after I get through some more of your ranting. I'm envious of your writing. HAHA.
Good Luck
Steve
I haven't written directly about death yet, although I include it obviously in the list of what I call the tragedies and absurdities of our existential predicament. See the rants on Happiness, Embarrassment by Sexual Ecstasy, and so forth.
DeleteI'm not sure I agree entirely when you say that accepting the status quo is damaging to people. Those who are successful in mainstream terms trade happiness for enlightenment. (See my rant on Buddhism where I compare Buddhist detachment with existential angst.) I suspect that since we evolved as social animals, being alienated from a community causes us to suffer, and accepting social conventions is a prerequisite for fitting into society. So an excess of skepticism, which is tantamount to enlightenment, causes the skeptic to suffer by making her an outcast. (See my rant/article, Revenge of the Omega Men.) I plan to talk about this further in an upcoming rant distinguishing between optimistic (New Age) and pessimistic (existential cosmicist) mysticism.
Thanks for reading!
Ben,
ReplyDeleteYes I see where you a coming from. I have thought this myself. It's actually where I am at the moment. When I said the 'status quo' what I meant was more to do with populations expecations and conclusions about what success is or what profession is more noble and whether material wealth is a path to satisfaction even though it has no permanency in reality. Does that make sense? :-/
What do you mean when you say "Those who are successful in mainstream terms trade happiness for enlightenment" ?
I'm confused about that.
I see what you mean though in regards to excessive skepticism. It does seem to alienate one from everything and cause this bitterness we talked about. This what you would call existential angnst? This does make sense. It's an aggitated feeling I have when I am seeking truth in some way and my mind is split into two different kinds of thinking.
Existential is on the left and Society is on the right. I seem to be struggling with both of these. For every profound idea I have no matter how radical, there is a voice in my head that comes from the image I have of society. It tries to contradict what I WANT TO BE TRUE. You mentioned it in the comments.
"the confirmation bias, where we favour evidence that supports our beliefs and ignore disconfirming evidence."
I can see this happening within me.
So is this the problem then? That the conflict here is my disdain for society?
I hope I have been clear enough. HAHA. I'll go and read those articles.
Thank you
Steve
Well, this is explained in a number of my writings on this blog, such as Happiness is Unbecoming, Embarrassment by Sexual Ecstasy, Lovecraftian Horror and Pragmatism, and Revenge of the Omega Men. The idea is that there's mainstream life which follows biologically and politically (oligarchically) determined conventions, and then there's life in the margins. Those who are enlightened have a deep philosophical perspective, but as I say in The Curse of Reason, philosophy is a two-edged source. The more we understand things, the more objective and detached from them we become, so that when we take up an uncompromising philosophical view of society, we can find ourselves alienated, socially awkward outcasts who may even threaten the social order. Moreover, we can lose interest in succeeding in materialistic terms (making a lot of money, raising a family, having many friends, and so on). We can find ourselves so-called omega men, outsiders like the Gnostics. The price of philosophical enlightenment is detachment, alienation, angst. This is what happened to Socrates, for example.
DeleteBen,
ReplyDeleteMaybe that's why Buddha advocated the middle way. A balance of both sides seems reasonable. The 8 Fold Path does seem quite radical though. Thanks for clearing that up for me.