Following the principle called Occam’s Razor, scientists
seek simple explanations of phenomena, meaning explanations that refer to as
few theoretical entities as possible. So instead of thinking of the Earth as somehow
special and separate from the rest of the universe, Newton unified the two by positing
the universal force of gravity, a force that works the same everywhere. Maxwell
unified magnetism, electricity, and light, showing that they’re manifestations
of a single force (the electromagnetic field). And Einstein unified space, time,
and gravity with his theory of spacetime. In each of these unifications, a
complex way of speaking is reduced to a simpler way, and depending on the
complex discourse's mix of strengths and weaknesses, the reduction may entail the
elimination of that discourse’s frame of reference so that the simpler theory
alone is thought to correspond to reality.
I think Darwin’s theory of natural selection is another case
of unification, but some of this theory's philosophical implications aren’t as well
appreciated. What Darwin showed is that nature can do the work of an intelligent
designer, in creating species of living things. Prior to Darwin, the difference
between life and death was usually explained in dualistic terms: natural life derives from God who is separate from
all of nature and who implants a spirit, or transcendent, immaterial essence,
within certain material bodies, while nonliving matter lacks any supernatural core. Here we had an absolute distinction between life and death, much like
Newton’s sharp distinction between space and time. But after Darwin, scientists
no longer regard the source of an organism’s distinguishing features--its
consciousness, agency, pleasures and pains--as supernatural, which is to say
that Darwinian biology is monistic
with respect to the difference between the living and the nonliving. Darwin’s
theory of how members of a species come to possess their traits is simpler than
the theistic, dualistic explanation. Instead of having to refer to two types of
things, a Creator God and the created material form, we need refer only to
material forms, such as the environment, genes, and simple physical bodies
which reproduce themselves from one generation to the next, migrating, occupying other niches, and becoming more complex and
specialized in the process.
Darwinian Life
Those repercussions of Darwinism are familiar to most
educated people. But when we ask again, “What is the difference between the
living and the nonliving, given the naturalistic, nontheistic theory of natural
selection?” we might be surprised to learn that we’re no longer entitled to the commonsense dualism between spirit and matter. When we
understand life scientifically, after Darwin, we can no longer rationally
justify any talk of immaterial spiritual essences that derive from a
supernatural realm inhabited by a perfect person who somehow precedes the
natural universe. But if there are no immaterial spirits, what makes life metaphysically
different from nonlife? Moreover, take what are intuitively thought to be
nonliving things, like the environment, DNA, proteins, and chemical reactions,
and take also relatively nonliving things like bacteria and viruses, which are
the precursors to higher organisms. If these elements--and not some supreme
living thing, like God--are responsible for the origin and the evolution of
life, again, what’s the metaphysical difference between the living and the
nonliving?
To be sure, there are scientific answers to these questions.
For example, biologically speaking, life must have genes and the capacity to
reproduce, and thus must evolve by natural selection. Also, the physicist
Erwin Schrodinger offered a deeper definition of “life,” according to which an
organism resists entropy and thermodynamic equilibrium (death), by taking order
(such as food) from the environment to maintain the internal order of its
metabolic processes. But these scientific answers are consistent with
the naturalistic elimination of the theist’s pre-Darwinian, dualistic notions
of spirit and spiritless matter. The naive way of understanding life, by
thinking of a transcendent spiritual essence within every organism, clashes with
the modern scientific perspective in which life can be explained by referring
solely to material things in nature.
To summarize the problem, then, we have a commonsense,
dualistic and theistic assumption about the difference between the living and the
dead, and after Darwin we have a scientific, monistic theory of that
difference. According to the latter theory, what we think of as living things
are made up entirely of what we’d intuitively call nonliving things; moreover,
not even the so-called highest organisms, such as primates, are living in the naïve
sense of having a spirit with a supernatural origin. Thus, the naïve way of
speaking of life has been replaced by a more rational way. Instead of
associating life with the supernatural, biologists explain both life and
nonlife in naturalistic terms. Instead of being created by means of an
intelligent designer’s plan, living things develop from simple, nonliving
natural processes. Nature, which monotheists and modernists think of as nonliving, assumes the
role of God in creating the diversity of life in the biosphere; and instead of
an all-knowing and all-powerful mind as the ultimate cause of life, there’s a
series of accidents that occurs over time that happens to set the conditions
for the transformation of nonliving matter into breathing, eating, fighting,
and dying entities such as you and me.
In so far as the everyday concepts of “life” and “death” are
tainted by the pre-Darwinian, theistic connotations, these concepts are no
longer rationally respectable. But my question is about the metaphysical
concept that replaces them; specifically, if
the theistic intuition is no longer tenable, in light of modern science, what viable
intuition about the nature of life and nonlife can be made to cohere with that
scientific understanding? Again, we have the scientific definitions which
assume philosophical monism (naturalism). That is, according to biologists,
both animals and rocks, for example, are material objects subject to natural
law and also to chance as opposed to divine interventions. If life
comes from nonlife, and both are natural, meaning that neither is invested
with anything supernatural like an immortal spirit, what’s the metaphysical difference
between, say, a person and the nonliving evolutionary processes in her
ancestor’s environment that brought that descendant into being?
All are Undead
The answer, which isn’t widely appreciated, seems to be the
following. Nothing in nature is living
in the old, supernatural sense. But neither is anything natural dead in the corresponding sense, since the theistic
intuition is that nonliving, dumb and blind matter can’t do the work of God,
which is why God is needed to create everything--especially life on Earth.
Natural forces are neither alive nor dead, in the senses given by the old
intuition. Nevertheless, those forces do the work of God, but without being God
and indeed without being alive even in the modern scientific respect. These
forces, then, are undead, as are
their products such as you and me, which is to say that the zombie stands as
the best symbol for our intuitions to latch onto as we come to grips with the philosophical
implications of Darwinism.
What is it to be undead? The word “undead” means that the undead thing is technically
dead but somehow reanimated so that the corpse doesn’t stay dead. Undeadness is
like spacetime, in that an undead thing has some attributes of the living and
of the nonliving, but isn’t the same as either, given the old, naive way of thinking about them. Just as
the concept of spacetime undermines the Newtonian theory of the absolute
(observer-independent) dimensions of space and time, the concept of undeadness
undermines the theistic myth of the gulf between living spirit and dead matter.
In recent cinema, a zombie is a monster that’s both alive and dead, and thus
neither; more precisely, a zombie has some features of the living (a zombie moves,
eats, and senses) but also some features of the dead (a zombie is brain dead, and
it has a decaying body and no metabolic functions). In short, a zombie is like
a macroscopic virus, possessing life-functions so rudimentary that the zombie
occupies a grey area in the biological continuum between the living and the
nonliving. Historically, this movie monster descends from the African and
Haitian folk practice of using a magic potion to induce a state of death-like
suspended animation in a victim. In any case, there’s little rational content
in the idea of the zombie monster, since this monster is, of course, both
fictional and paradoxical. Still, the zombie is the most useful symbol in
making philosophical sense of Darwinism, since the relatively harmless horror
aroused by the fictional zombie sublimates the more subversive horror we’d otherwise feel whenever we’d contemplate the fact that Darwin effectively zombified
the universe and all of its inhabitants.
Part of the horror of zombies is that their state of living
death is typically left as an unanswerable mystery: they’re manifestly as
dangerous as living predators, since they hunt and feed off of animals, but
they’re also obviously dead since they’re reborn, as it were, only after a
person’s brain death. The root of the horror is that their similarities to both
living and dead things confound us. How is it that a dead body could get up and
walk on its own? And how humiliated and alienated must we feel when we wonder
whether we might be left so far in the dark regarding the nature of reality?
What sort of twisted world could allow for such an abomination, for such counterfeit
life in a corpse? These are some of the questions we might ask about the movie
monster.
But Darwinism compels us to ask such questions about our
actual selves, about all natural life forms and indeed about the whole
cosmos! Just as the fictional state of living death is typically left in the
horror movies as a brute, inexplicable fact, so too scientists and
philosophical naturalists are content to stipulate that there’s no
intuitively satisfying explanation of how a godless, nonliving universe can pop
into existence and create life. As the naturalist says, the facts are what they
are, regardless of how we feel about them or whether they make intuitive sense
to us. (Bertrand Russell took this stand in his famous 1948 debate on God’s existence, with Frederick Copleston, when Russell said that the universe doesn’t
need a cause because “the
universe is just there, and that's all.”) This kind of
metaphysical realism, as it’s called, amounts to saying that nature and all of
its inhabitants are potentially as horrifying as zombie monsters that get up
and walk, in the first place, for no reason
at all. Just as the universe begins with a Big Bang, from a singularity
whose internal properties are miraculous in so far as they’re not subject to
natural law (unless we switch to quantum mechanics), a zombie begins with a corpse’s magical reanimation, and both are
accepted as brute facts of life in nature and in the movies, respectively. In
light of Darwinism, however, all of nature takes on other zombie qualities as
well, and so the ultimate inexplicability of the natural universe makes for a
more profound horror.
Moreover, biologists and philosophers of science frequently
speak in shorthand when discussing adaptations or biological functions, using
scare quotes when attributing intention to biological processes. The long way
of explaining a trait like a bat’s wings is to tell the story of how certain
genes and proteins used to fit into an ancestral environment, in that the host bodies
produced by those chemicals happened to thrive and reproduce, and so on. The
short, intuitive but naïve interpretation of the trait is that a bat has wings
because the bat is supposed to fly,
as though the bat were designed with that end in someone’s mind. The biologist
wants to avoid that theistic intuition, since Darwin showed that such teleology
is unnecessary, but the biologist is forced to give some credit to the naïve
view--and not just because the long way of speaking becomes cumbersome. As the
philosopher Daniel Dennett explains, the evolutionary
pattern is subject to the "intentional stance," meaning that the bat’s success in
flying with its wings does look--for all the world--as though there were a
designer’s mind responsible for that success. Thus, Dennett personifies natural
selection as Mother Nature. The biologist is compelled by the life-like
qualities of the evolutionary process to resort to such anthropomorphism, but
isn’t metaphysically committed to identifying that process as an intelligent designer. Thus,
the biologist compromises by anthropomorphizing the process, but by putting
scare quotes around the offending language. For example, a biologist
might explain the adaptability of the bat’s wings by saying that the wings are
“for” the purpose of flying, or that flying is their “function,” and the
biologist will use scare quotes to signal both her displeasure with the
compromise and the fact that she’s speaking in an ironic fashion.
Likewise, a zombie monster isn’t really alive even though its
life-like qualities are uncanny, so we’re forced to treat the monster merely as if it were alive. The zombie passes
the Turing Test for life, except that unlike in the case of a computer, we
happen to know in advance that a zombie is, scientifically speaking, dead. In
other words, just like naturally selected traits, a zombie triggers our
intentional stance, our social instinct for positing and interpreting mental
processes, and so we think of the zombie as in some way alive even though we
know better. The zombie’s a monstrous abomination because of that paradox: the
idea of this monster mocks our cherished social instinct, by simultaneously
triggering and nullifying that instinct. And once again, Darwinism turns all of
the actual cosmos into the same sort of monstrous abomination. Natural forces,
which are devoid of life, scientifically and theistically speaking,
nevertheless behave as though they were alive by creating the cosmological
conditions for life and then by fine-tuning life through natural selection. Moreover,
organisms themselves are as dead as the natural forces that produce them, given
the irrationality of the old, theistic conceptions of life and death which flow so readily from
our social instinct, but organisms behave as though they were animated by
immaterial spirits (even though we now know they’re not).
All of nature should be thought to have mere pseudo-life,
just like the fictional zombie, and this is some of the metaphysical fallout of
the Darwinian picture. Thus, the under-appreciated philosophical implication of
modern biology is that, like a zombie movie, the evolutionary saga is a horror
show. When we behold signs of life, whether by communing with nature, walking
through a zoo, studying a biology textbook, or just looking in the mirror, we ought
to be fleeing in terror as though from a zombie horde. But of course we don’t
do so because we’re not equipped with the superhuman stamina to sustain the
degree of terror that’s warranted by our existential circumstances. Instead, we
confine our dread of the metaphysical facts of life, or rather of the facts of the
great living death, to our reaction to the silly Hollywood beasty, in the
safety and comfort of a movie theater. Metaphysically
speaking, though, the zombie is no silly fiction; given Darwinism, we are all
walking dead things. We are neither living nor dead (in the old senses),
but undead (to use a newer, more fitting term), and when we die in the
scientific sense, our decaying body will add to the natural process by which
the larger zombie which is our planet evolves the next round of its zombie
progeny.
Ironic Postmodern Pantheism
Indeed, this philosophical implication of Darwinism, that
the ordinary notions of life and nonlife no longer make sense and that they
need to be replaced by something like the idea of a baffling state of living
death, amounts to an ironic, postmodern kind of pantheism. Darwinism not only
zombifies but deifies all of nature, since the evolutionary process encompasses
the cosmic preconditions of the emergence of life so that the whole universe is
required to create life in a mindless, natural fashion. There is no personal
God, but the universe as a whole in all of its interconnectedness does yield
organisms as byproducts, as though the universe were a creator god. Nature as a
whole isn’t personal, but social creatures like us will inevitably
anthropomorphize evolutionary patterns. The divinity of nature is
no majestic thing, since the cosmos is best understood as an undead
monstrosity. Whereas prior to Darwin, educated people could attribute
intentional properties to the universe, with no hint of irony since they could
assume that a personal God created the universe as a machine, bestowing it with
artificial functions, in our postmodern time we can only look on in disgust as
the universe abuses our social reflex, compelling us to be overly friendly with
what we know scientifically to be inanimate matter. We know that we ourselves
are spiritless entities; to be sure, we have a brain that has marvelous
effects, but metaphysically we’re one with the natural cosmos, meaning that
we’re thoroughly material and physical. But physically interacting material
things aren’t inert or dead; they’re peerlessly creative and thus as divine as
anything we can know. That divinity, however, is repulsive, blasphemous, and
just as abominable as a zombie monster’s mockery of life.
Our ideal of life derives from the naïve intuition implanted
in us by our social instinct, by what Dennett calls the intentional stance. We
wish we had an inner essence to account for our suspicion that we’re not at
home in nature; we feel we don’t belong because our human qualities are so
unique. Thus, we assume we have an invisible spirit, a precious fragment of a
transcendent reality that marks us as akin to a greater realm than the dark and
primitive physical one. Evolution forces us to think socially about each other,
and so we interpret our behavior by positing minds that freely choose and thus
that possess moral value. We assume our spiritual core is immortal, because we feel we're supernatural. But Darwinism reveals all of this as delusory. We are not
alive in any such respect. We’re forced to think we are, because that’s how our
brain operates, by installing mental programs that model both our external and
internal worlds, simplifying them to keep us on the straight and narrow path of
fulfilling our evolutionary “functions” (note the scare quotes). But neither
are we dead in the naïve sense in which spiritless matter was presumed to lack
any divine creativity. No, we’re something worse, something bewildering, and
we’re children of an equally monstrous parent. We’re no more personal than our gods; all of us are undead monsters,
conglomerations of natural mechanisms that simulate life while lacking any
metaphysical distinction that sets us apart from whatever seems to us to be plainly
lifeless. We personify each other and our ultimate creator alike, but those
projections are genetically- and culturally-programmed vanities.
The word “pantheism” means that God is the universe, that
everything is equally divine. Although many theists insist on praying to the
corpse, the personal God of mainstream religions is dead, the ancient spells
having little if any effect on those inspired by modern scientists to think
critically about big philosophical questions. But modern scientists themselves re-enchant nature, divinizing it by being
forced by their methodological naturalism to preclude any supernatural
creativity. If all creativity must be natural--and the cosmic seed develops
into a wondrous tree indeed, complexifying and emerging levels of
patterns like flowers growing from a stem, eventually evolving biological life
on at least one planet and probably on many more--the universe isn’t just
creative but supremely, awesomely so. That makes the universe our god, our
creator, albeit a mindless one that only seems personally alive to social
creatures like us, but which is actually in a nightmarish state of living
death. Like each of us, the cosmos is a spiritless leviathan, but one whose
twists and turns create and destroy whole worlds and galaxies instead of just
families or communities. Thus, the universe has at best a
simulated mind, its processes triggering our social reflex so that we’re forced
to anthropomorphize nature even as we now know better.
But even were there no biological life that looks on the
universe in horror, nature would be metaphysically undead since natural forces
would still be diabolically creative, like musical instruments playing a tune
all on their own, with no one to breathe life into them. Personal divinity is
subjective, a mere projection by self-centered primates onto the alien vistas
to make us feel more comfortable in a humanized world. But nature’s undead
divinity is an objective fact. Natural forces alone create everything around us
and they do so inexplicably and monstrously, with no personal handler, spewing
out an infinite diversity of forms on a mind-boggling scale; creating prodigiously,
thanklessly, never tiring or second-guessing themselves, creating and
destroying to make room for more novel products, for new galaxies and untold
wonders. We are such blind, childish know-nothing blunders that we can be
surrounded by such infinite creativity and then stoop to attributing the whole
universe to a guy like us who lurks somewhere offstage. Only such clumsy
braggarts like us could witness nature patently creating itself as it goes
along, and then ignore all of that and posit invisible, personal spirits (fairies,
angels, gods, etc) as the true culprits.
Anyway, Darwinism seems to me to have these dismal
implications. There is no life or nonlife in the old dualistic sense. Darwinism
unifies life and death, showing that nature simulates God, and simulated life that
paradoxically occurs in spiritless and thus “dead” matter is best
symbolized by the zombie's undeadness. The zombie apocalypse has long come and
gone and the zombies won. We can’t escape them, because we never were the few
remaining, uninfected heroes, remnants of a wholesome time before the coming of
the wasteland at the world’s end. There never was a titanic clash between human
and monster, between supernatural spirit and passive matter. From the beginning,
atoms, molecules, stars, galaxies and the whole panoply of cosmic forces have
been infected by the zombie plague, creating and evolving themselves just like
the God of yore was supposed to have created and shaped the universe. In our dreadful postmodern condition, we can worship our god
only with severe irony, because we have the same social impulses as our
prescientific ancestors, but we also have the findings of modern science,
including Darwinism. Thus, our prayers should be rants within the undead god.
Hey Ben,
ReplyDeleteI have enjoyed this post and "The World's creation as God's self destruction" in a different way from some of your other writings. I hate to use the word, but in a way they are very "cool". I cringed a little bit as I typed that, but really what I mean is that the imagery is quite excellent. I think the sort of symbolic pantheism here is a far more authentic way of viewing the idea that "we are the cosmos", or as some people have put it "we are the universe experiencing itself". It puts the idea of the connectedness of the universe in proper perspective, instead of pairing the idea with a sort of unwarranted optimism and cheeriness.
The chosen symbolism used in these posts seems far more accurate because it feels much more realistic. Not that I believe that the cosmos is a body of a dying deity literally, but in a way it is, as it mindlessly creates, though in very inhumane an indifferent ways. Truly, if there is no immaterial world of spirits, the old distinction of alive vs. dead just doesn't hold. I'm not sure why, but in a way it is freeing. Though that probably isn't necessarily the idea, especially considering Mainlander's suicide, somehow I think the symbolism provides a healthy sort of detachment from false notions of our own importance.
Thanks, JKX, and thanks again for reading. My next rant will be on the Matrix metaphor (following up on Darwinism and Nature's Undeadness), and you don't get cooler than the Matrix movie. ;)
DeleteI was talking with David Metcalfe, about nature's undeadness, in the comments section of Matt Cardin's thought-provoking blog, linked to in my blog's list of links. In fact, my comments there gave me the ideas for my rant on Darwinism and for my next one, on the Matrix. But what I noticed is that David, who's very knowledgeable about mysticism, doesn't regard the notion of our undeadness as at all scary or depressing. And this reminded me that I've got to address here the difference between optimistic and pessimistic mysticism.
If you're interested in looking at our discussion in the comments section, they're found in the Oct 9 post, "Humility and Silence...," at The Teeming Brain blog. Here's the link:
http://www.teemingbrain.com/2012/10/09/humility-and-silence-where-true-science-and-true-spirituality-meet/
They're more friendly there with the prospect of the paranormal, but Matt Cardin connects horror with religion in fascinating ways.
Awesome, thanks for the info, I will check it out!
DeletePretty frickin awesome. Tom Metzinger recommended I give this a looksee, and do I see why. Radical, post-intentional philosophy is the future, as heartbreaking as it is.
ReplyDeleteBut there is a way for you to think through this problematic outside all the old dichotomies, life/death, real/ideal, natural/spiritual, that has to do with seeing past Dennett, and looking closely at the cognitive implications of his 'stances.' Human cognition is heuristic through and through. If you get a chance, check out,
http://rsbakker.wordpress.com/2012/10/08/out-danning-dennett/
http://rsbakker.wordpress.com/2012/10/22/v-is-for-defeat-the-total-and-utter-annihilation-of-representational-theories-of-mind/
http://rsbakker.wordpress.com/2012/09/27/thinker-as-tinker/
I'd love to debate this stuff, Benjamin. Needless to say, I'll be rooting both for and through these pages. Here's to plucking philosophy from ingroup bureaucracies and bringing back it to the AGORA.
Thanks for the thumbs up! I see that you're the Scott Bakker who writes The Second Apocalypse. It's a small world, since I also went to graduate school at UWO. And by "Tom Metzinger," are you talking about the author of The Ego Tunnel, a book I just referred to in my most recent article/rant here, "Science and the Matrix Metaphor"? I wonder how he found my blog.
DeleteAnyway, I will indeed check out those links to your blog. Instead of debating, though, let's say we can discuss or explore these ideas (in a forum of your choosing). I tend to get aggressive only when I'm seriously annoyed. By the way, I did my Ph.D. on representational theories of mental content (Fodor, Dretske, and Millikan).
I'm always amazed at how disinclined so many philosophy of mind types are discussing the crazy social implications of their work, but not so Metzinger. He's dialed into the totality of the problem. My guess he found it via word of link like I did.
DeleteGiven that representationalism is your area of expertise, I could use your help! I'm really just an opinionated lay-reader. Either way, it might be interesting to set up an email dialogue that we could simultaneously publish on our blogs. In the meantime, I would love to have you as a guestblogger over at TPB, Ben. Apocalyptic pulp and philosophy is our thing.
I read through those three articles. You certainly don't write philosophy of mind like a lay-reader! I'm not sure I'd still call myself an expert, though, since I've been out of that literature for a few years. I'm more interested now in the social consequences of the scientific picture than in the technical philosophy of mind topics.
DeleteStill, I do have some questions about and comments on your articles that might indeed make for an interesting email exchange. (I love the radical tone of your writing, by the way.) Is your email address already published somewhere on the web? I can't find it at your blog. If not and you'd rather not publish it here, I have a work-around: I can give you an email address here that I use but that I don't care much about, and once we connect through that address, I can give you the email address I use more frequently.
I'd be happy to write some material for your blog. Thanks very much for the offer! Let's talk about it more by email, so let me know which email address we should begin with.
Life in a naturalistic framework is simply meaningless and horrible once viewed clearly. Antinatalism is the only reasonable response once one has decided theism is not an option.
ReplyDeleteThanks for reading, Karl. If nature is absurd and horrible, though, I'm not sure why our response should be, as you say, reasonable.
DeleteI write somewhat indirectly on the question of antinatalism in my Dec 2011 blog post, "Should we procreate to honour our ancestors?"
You might also be interested in my comments on Woody Allen's philosophy and on the film, Melancholia, in "Woody Allen's Curious Intellectualism" (May, 2012).
We know each individual human life is guaranteed to contain suffering. Most people believe that to engender suffering is wrong. If you don't have a religious perspective, then there can be no moral justification for procreating. Those who call themselves 'humanists', 'secularists', believers in 'Progress' etc would do well to wake up and realise that they are simply projecting their emotional needs on to a silent universe.
DeleteI'm actually gathering my thoughts to write a post that's directly on antinatalism (AN). There's a dilemma, I think, for utilitarian AN, which is that this AN is either incoherent or it rests on a dubious empirical assumption. From what I understand, the utilitarian argument for AN, made by David Benatar, says something like, “Suffering is bad, we should be compassionate towards those who suffer, and since suffering is inevitable, nonlife is better than life.” But this seems to me to justify murder to save people from their pain. In fact, this was the logic of the serial killer character in the movie Seven. He killed people to end their suffering and to prove to everyone that we all deserve death. (This is a well-known problem with basic utilitarianism, which is that it justifies evil means for the sake of a greater good.)
DeleteAnd yet if suffering is bad, pleasure must be good. So if it turns out that we feel more pleasure than pain, life becomes better than nonlife, after all, and antinatalism is false. So when the antinatalist says we should spare the unborn the burden of living, and that this assessment is based on compassion for the inevitable suffering a person will go through, the antinatalist is conceding the positive value of pleasure. But if pleasure is good, so must be the conditions of pleasure’s possibility, such as consciousness, intelligence, and so on. At the very least, the value of these conditions must be mixed since they produce both pleasure and pain. And this is where I think the antinatalist must bring in a dubious empirical assumption, which is that we feel more pain than pleasure, and indeed that this is a necessity or at least a probability, so that there’s no reason to think that the pleasure of future generations will outweigh their pain. It seems to me a tall order indeed to quantitatively prove any of those latter statements. The incoherence of philanthropic AN would lie in the concession that the value of human life must be *mixed,* in which case we could hardly be *confident* or *certain* that procreation is bad.
Anyway, I'm still thinking about it. But we agree that many people project their ideals onto nature. Existentialists, though, would grant that values are subjective.
The point is WE CANNOT KNOW how any life will go, therefore it is by definition a risk, more than that it is a guarantee of new suffering, as there has never been a pain-free life. And the fact is that it is a risk which does not need to be taken. There is no good reason for transforming Nothingness into Being, which is what every procreator does. The universe is not deprivated by the non-existence of humanity. The never-born are not deprivated by never existing. Again, all defences of procreation come down to irrational, wooly, wish-fulfilment and an inabiltiy or unwillingness to face up to the ephemeral and meaningless nature of existence.
DeleteSo what do you predict the "social consequences of the scientific picture" will be? If every human on the planet suddenly became aware of nature's undeadness, what do you think would happen? Are there certain articles you have written that you would point me to?
ReplyDeleteI haven't written much directly on this social question, although this is one of the topics I'm currently discussing with R. Scott Bakker. I'm writing something now which might show up on his blog, Three Pound Brain, about posthuman scenarios, given that the conflict between the scientific picture of the self and the naive, intuitive one will eventually come to a head.
DeleteI also talk a lot on this blog about the esoteric and the exoteric. Most people either aren't clever enough to understand the implications of modern science or lack the interest and so won't as a matter of fact attempt to learn. Thus, the divide between those with deep knowledge and those with only politically correct prejudices or delusions arises organically.
If, somehow, everyone did become aware of nature's undeadness and came to believe that God is literally dead, I imagine most people--the theists--wouldn't be happy. There would be chaos and mass panic. But it's hard to predict what would happen, because it's so hard to see how everyone could come to this discovery. It's quite hypothetical and unlikely.
Another great post, though I have a few thoughts I'd be curious to know your reaction to. I've posted them on my blog: http://footnotes2plato.com/2013/06/15/life-after-darwin-another-response-to-benjamin-cain/
ReplyDeleteThanks, Matt Segall. I've responded on your blog.
DeleteHey there, Ben. I uploaded a translation of this article in Greek on my blog today.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Evan. This is one of my older articles, although it's a foundational one. I have some more recent articles on religion you might interested in:
Deletehttp://rantswithintheundeadgod.blogspot.ca/2017/08/the-fraud-of-theology.html
http://rantswithintheundeadgod.blogspot.ca/2017/09/a-critique-of-presuppositional.html
I may not have been as active in my translations, but I still read your articles. I have already earmarked both of these for translation. ;)
DeleteAh, great! Is there a Greek word for "undead"?
DeleteThere is.
Deleteαπέθαντος (a-PEH-than-dos) [/a/=not and /peth/=stem of the verb "to die"] Also
νεκροζώντανος (neh-croh-ZOH-nda-nos) [from the stems /nekr/ and /zon/, dead and alive]
Both are neologisms of course, since the concept is absent from ancient greek mythology. The international word "zombie" is also in use for the run-of-the-mill walking dead.
The first truly undead creatures in the modern sense came in vogue in Greece around the 17th century; Vampires (in Greek, vrykolakes or vourdoulakes) corpses of people who reanimated because they were not buried by a priest and/or were despicable people in life. Probably an import from the respective eastern european legends.
Interesting. I asked because Google Translate couldn't handle "undead."
DeleteJesus' raising of Lazarus might count as an earlier instance of a zombie, written in NT Greek.
From ``God is dead`` to ``undead zombie God``?
ReplyDeleteIndeed! The pantheism I have in mind uses "God" as a metaphor. When Nietzsche said "God is dead," he meant that the myths of the monotheistic God are no longer aesthetically compelling. So the belief in that personal kind of intelligent designer is obsolete and no longer respectable in late modernity. But that says nothing about the strange, horrific self-creativity of nature, which is all the divinity we need.
DeleteHow about the argument that all things have life. All things. A speck of dust has life. Thus, we are not undead and can never be undead as all things are alive. It really depends on how you define "life". No matter how you see it, we are indeed alive. Either we are a collection of inanimate objects that form to become categorized as "alive" or all things are alive because all things are in motion, always. Even a speck of dust has atoms that are very much active within themselves and active among each other. I understand your discussion, it's very interesting. You're saying all things are undead, technically dead but animate. Death is...what? The state of not being alive? What is being alive? Having life? What is life? There are many definitions of this word and far more interpretations. Without a clear definition, no answer on whether all things are undead, alive, or dead can be determined. Parameters must be set prior to reaching a conclusion. Thanks for the thought provoking words.
ReplyDeleteI agree that we're alive. I wouldn't want to say that everything in the universe is alive in the same sense, though, since that would turn "alive" into a weasel word. The over-extension would empty the word of meaning. There are panpsychist theories about the universal application of "consciousness," including an interesting theory that bases consciousness on the processing of information. However we define these things, though, we shouldn't say everything is alive or conscious to the very same degree. Not even Hindu monists would say that. So the dualism between people and the inorganic parts of the universe would pop back up.
DeleteThe point of calling nature "living-dead" is to say that nature is more mysterious than is credited in the materialistic, instrumentalist view, according to which nature is raw material to be exploited at will. My point is that it's hard to miss out on the aesthetic dimension when we attempt to see things objectively, laying aside our personal interests. And aesthetically speaking, nature's mindless form of self-creativity is zombie-like and thus quite horrific. The meaning of our life unfolds, then, as a call to oppose that monstrosity in some ennobling, honourable fashion.
http://rantswithintheundeadgod.blogspot.ca/2013/11/life-as-art-morality-and-natures.html
http://rantswithintheundeadgod.blogspot.ca/2015/07/opposing-nature-hypermodern-meaning-of.html