Friday, November 8, 2019

On Medium: Why Theism and Atheism are both Laughable

I've posted on article on Medium, called Why Theism and Atheism are both Laughable, about the presumption that we're entitled to a complete explanation of everything, and the counterintuitiveness of theistic and naturalistic cosmologies.

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  1. I was thinking, aren't those lovecraftian pictures of black testicle cosmic beasts are silly ones as angels in the sky? Aesthetically or spiritually they may be emotionally inspiring and beautiful in some sort or another, but from enlightened perspective, all our attachment to our animal/mammal formed emotions is foolish, and if you want to go to the Truth, you need to past even that. Does it makes sense? I'm not telling ignoring aesthetic pleasures, or trying to dull it down, but to pass through that, to the the Truth beyond it, to transcend it. So, lovecraftian pictures, depression, and nihilism related to all of such cosmic realizations ultimately all are insignificant, animalistic spiritual and emotional clinging to life. Next in a way, we should accept our position from cosmic perspective and even past spiritually depressing and nihilistic part of this.

    If you clinging to human position and identity, or any our spiritual or aesthetic ideal, you're not valuing Truth enough.

    And, if it truly achieved and embodied, you should go into some state of absolute integrity, apex of our spiritual, aesthetic and emotional architecture, basically our living limits getting one with the universe.

    I hope I'm not talking nonsense, I'm not confident in it, that just reoccurring thoughts in my mind. But, I think it's okay to be wrong and feel stupid, exploring different branches on philosophical path. I’m still human, I’m still afraid to die or get beaten, I still love beautiful pictures, etc.

    It's related to your aesthetic values only values left idea, aren't we supposed to transcend them too? Can we?

    Can you share your thoughts on it?

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    1. Well, there's an important difference between cosmicist and theistic art. Theists take their art seriously, whereas cosmicists understand their art is fiction. Lovecraft didn't believe those monsters are real. He created the monsters as symbols to stand for nature's indifference. Nature's the monster for cosmicists.

      But I agree that it might not be so wise to cling emotionally to a depressing philosophy. Often when I write about the dark implications of science and philosophical naturalism, I say we have an obligation to acknowledge those implications, to leap through that ring of fire. But I don't say that's the end of our journey. There's some kind of enlightenment on the other side. I often speak about it in terms of an aesthetic sensibility. See, for example, the article linked to below, which explicitly distinguishes between the dark and the light sides of the worldview I'm working out on this blog. Still, I admit I may have said less about the light side than about the dark one. Destruction is easier than creation.

      http://rantswithintheundeadgod.blogspot.com/2013/11/enlightenment-and-suicide.html

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  2. Hey Ben
    I've got a pretty good horror novel idea straight out of real life, so it reflects the zeitgeist so to speak... Was thinking how to make it a success, and then it hit me. I know a guy who is a terrific writer and lightning fast at that. Plus I
    need somebody razor smart who could see things in a wider perspective than most... Recognize yourself? If anyone could produce a blood curdling horror story out of this real life scary situation, yoh would be no 1 on my list. I hope you might be interested in discussing this, talk to me please, there must be money in this a as it is a good story, still very much open ended... It's not a passion project, hopefully commercial product. For writers of your calibre that would be a piece of cake probably...

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    1. Feel free to send me the idea for the story through the "Contact this blog's author" form on this blog. I don't think it's visible in the mobile version. Or you could just say hello through the contact form, and we could discuss the idea itself by email through that form.

      The problem is I have ideas to follow up on my zombie novel with three sequels. But a novel takes months of commitment to write. Plus, I wouldn't get your hopes up too high with respect to making money from a novel or a story. Novels are a dime a dozen now and to have any hope of making money, you'd have to spend more time marketing the book than writing it.

      More realistically, it might be fun to turn your idea into a short story and to send the story to some horror journals. The top journals, though, tend to be overloaded with submissions.

      It's important to have the right expectations when it comes to writing fiction. We should write for fun, not to make money.

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